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3:55 there may be some confusion and people will continue to submit you know uh will continue to submit you know uh will continue to submit you know uh general comments uh past the 10-5 general comments uh past the 10-5 general comments uh past the 10-5 period so um period so um period so um i think we should just keep it open for i think we should just keep it open for i think we should just keep it open for uh all general comments or all comments others i agree with councillor fuentes others i agree with councillor fuentes just keeping it open for just keeping it open for just keeping it open for for all great i i agree with them as for all great i i agree with them as for all great i i agree with them as well well well councillor young would you like to weigh councillor young would you like to weigh councillor young would you like to weigh in in any way in in any way in in any way all right so uh so it'll be open for all right so uh so it'll be open for all right so uh so it'll be open for outcome comments up until one hour outcome comments up until one hour outcome comments up until one hour before before before our meeting on the 13th okay our meeting on the 13th okay our meeting on the 13th okay thank you thank you thank you uh so i did want to make a couple of uh so i did want to make a couple of uh so i did want to make a couple of comments let me try and remember what comments let me try and remember what comments let me try and remember what they were they were they were so we're going to there's several so we're going to there's several so we're going to there's several amendments that have been proposed amendments that have been proposed amendments that have been proposed and i would suggest that those be and i would suggest that those be and i would suggest that those be brought up when we're doing that section brought up when we're doing that section

4:54 brought up when we're doing that section of the comprehensive plan and oliver if of the comprehensive plan and oliver if of the comprehensive plan and oliver if you could help us out identifying what you could help us out identifying what you could help us out identifying what what needs to go what needs to go what needs to go where because i'm not a hundred percent where because i'm not a hundred percent where because i'm not a hundred percent clear clear clear uh and uh uh and uh uh and uh and that i know there are uh and that i know there are uh and that i know there are uh disagreements amongst the counselors and disagreements amongst the counselors and disagreements amongst the counselors and i would just encourage people i would just encourage people i would just encourage people uh to not interrupt each other when uh to not interrupt each other when uh to not interrupt each other when they're making their case for whatever they're making their case for whatever they're making their case for whatever point they'd like to make uh we'll all point they'd like to make uh we'll all point they'd like to make uh we'll all get a chance to say get a chance to say get a chance to say whatever it is that we'd like to say and whatever it is that we'd like to say and whatever it is that we'd like to say and i just would i just would i just would note that i brought my larger gavel note that i brought my larger gavel note that i brought my larger gavel today uh which my husband made for me today uh which my husband made for me today uh which my husband made for me out of uh pear wood from our farm so out of uh pear wood from our farm so out of uh pear wood from our farm so i'm prepared to use that if i need to i'm prepared to use that if i need to i'm prepared to use that if i need to uh okay so um uh okay so um uh okay so um i did have and maybe others have any i did have and maybe others have any i did have and maybe others have any questions that just came up from the questions that just came up from the questions that just came up from the comment before we get into our decision comment before we get into our decision

5:52 comment before we get into our decision by decision by decision by decision i had a few i had a few i had a few i'll start i'll start i'll start uh so with the transportation uh uh well some of there's a lot of comments well some of there's a lot of comments well some of there's a lot of comments that people have made about uh the the that people have made about uh the the that people have made about uh the the codes and the parking and the driveways codes and the parking and the driveways codes and the parking and the driveways and widths of roads will that be taken and widths of roads will that be taken and widths of roads will that be taken up up up uh with the update of the road standards uh with the update of the road standards uh with the update of the road standards and if so when would that happen good morning councillors for the record good morning councillors for the record oliver ojaka community planning oliver ojaka community planning oliver ojaka community planning director director director councillor councillor councillor councillors and chair uh those comments councillors and chair uh those comments councillors and chair uh those comments were just were just were just uh of concern uh of concern uh of concern and i know that the county manager and and i know that the county manager and and i know that the county manager and the deputy the deputy the deputy county manager here but county manager here but county manager here but we have been

6:51 focusing on update to the county road focusing on update to the county road standards standards standards we believe that uh that update we believe that uh that update we believe that uh that update will review and address uh those issues will review and address uh those issues will review and address uh those issues in addition to in addition to in addition to other issues that have been uh we have other issues that have been uh we have other issues that have been uh we have been wrestling with like been wrestling with like been wrestling with like road more than others so my response road more than others so my response road more than others so my response or less uh or less uh or less uh april or kathleen wants to add kathleen wants to add my my take is yes those issues my my take is yes those issues my my take is yes those issues is proper to be reviewed and and addressed is proper to be reviewed and and addressed is proper to be reviewed and and addressed through through through through the road standards update through the road standards update through the road standards update okay thank you and then uh the equine okay thank you and then uh the equine okay thank you and then uh the equine code came up and has come up code came up and has come up code came up and has come up periodically throughout the year periodically throughout the year periodically throughout the year years uh and so i don't know if anyone years uh and so i don't know if anyone years uh and so i don't know if anyone has an amendment related to that or has an amendment related to that or has an amendment related to that or or if it's not addressed in the or if it's not addressed in the or if it's not addressed in the comprehensive plan comprehensive plan comprehensive plan we would still have opportunities if we we would still have opportunities if we

7:51 we would still have opportunities if we really evaluate that to make any really evaluate that to make any really evaluate that to make any changes we might want to make changes we might want to make changes we might want to make go ahead go ahead go ahead april firth uh deputy county manager and april firth uh deputy county manager and april firth uh deputy county manager and um you can correct me if i'm wrong but um you can correct me if i'm wrong but um you can correct me if i'm wrong but title 40 updates can happen at any time title 40 updates can happen at any time title 40 updates can happen at any time okay okay okay great we've got a lot on our plate so great we've got a lot on our plate so great we've got a lot on our plate so uh uh uh i think oh well pleasant valley i've i think oh well pleasant valley i've i think oh well pleasant valley i've received a lot of emails about the received a lot of emails about the received a lot of emails about the pleasant valley area and zone changes pleasant valley area and zone changes pleasant valley area and zone changes and it wasn't and it wasn't and it wasn't entirely clear to me what those zone entirely clear to me what those zone entirely clear to me what those zone changes are and whether or not it's a changes are and whether or not it's a changes are and whether or not it's a development application that has really development application that has really development application that has really triggered triggered triggered some of the concerns so i don't know some of the concerns so i don't know some of the concerns so i don't know what's allowable now what's allowable now what's allowable now if you're familiar with that area it's if you're familiar with that area it's if you're familiar with that area it's 139th and i 139th and i 139th and i think around 29th and 50th um um oliver again counselors we can take a look oliver again counselors we can take a look oliver again counselors we can take a look at that area to see at that area to see

8:51 at that area to see whether there are any whether there are any whether there are any application in the pipeline application in the pipeline application in the pipeline and whether that is part of their and whether that is part of their and whether that is part of their concern or whether there is any concern or whether there is any concern or whether there is any um changes that we are proposing as part um changes that we are proposing as part um changes that we are proposing as part of this process we can take a look at of this process we can take a look at of this process we can take a look at that but you are correct that often that but you are correct that often that but you are correct that often what triggers are concerned from the what triggers are concerned from the what triggers are concerned from the neighbors is neighbors is a proposal to develop a property that a proposal to develop a property that a proposal to develop a property that they thought they thought they thought is wooded and vacant and when that is is wooded and vacant and when that is is wooded and vacant and when that is cleared cleared cleared and there's application to develop and there's application to develop and there's application to develop those phases some issues of traffic those phases some issues of traffic those phases some issues of traffic concerns and concerns and concerns and and so forth but those and so forth but those and so forth but those uh applications that may be in the uh applications that may be in the uh applications that may be in the pipeline are all coming in based on the pipeline are all coming in based on the pipeline are all coming in based on the current zoning current zoning current zoning and uh being reviewed based on our

9:44 and uh being reviewed based on our at that area to see whether there are at that area to see whether there are at that area to see whether there are issues related to applications that are in the pipeline or applications that are in the pipeline or proposed proposed proposed zone changes i'm familiar with that area zone changes i'm familiar with that area zone changes i'm familiar with that area but i'm not sure jose if we are but i'm not sure jose if we are but i'm not sure jose if we are proposing any significant change in that proposing any significant change in that proposing any significant change in that area area area yes we are proposing up zoning yes we are proposing up zoning yes we are proposing up zoning in that area from r175 to the r36 in that area from r175 to the r36 in that area from r175 to the r36 okay okay okay thank you thank you thank you okay thank you okay thank you okay thank you okay other sure okay other sure sure okay other sure sure clarifications or questions yeah clarifications or questions yeah clarifications or questions yeah where are we going to add uh washugal i where are we going to add uh washugal i where are we going to add uh washugal i still don't see it in the planning still don't see it in the planning still don't see it in the planning commission council decision table so commission council decision table so commission council decision table so what uh where should we add it and what what uh where should we add it and what what uh where should we add it and what is it is it is it or where can we see it or where can we see it or where can we see it um don't want to miss them um don't want to miss them um don't want to miss them the the the the proposed changes in washougal would the proposed changes in washougal would the proposed changes in washougal would be be

10:43 be in the in the in the comp plan the appendices where we have comp plan the appendices where we have comp plan the appendices where we have all of the all of the all of the proposed maps proposed maps proposed maps that would be reflected with any that would be reflected with any that would be reflected with any changes they're not proposing any changes they're not proposing any changes they're not proposing any expansions they are proposing some expansions they are proposing some expansions they are proposing some changes within their uga changes within their uga changes within their uga that stem from decisions they made that stem from decisions they made that stem from decisions they made around the 2016 time and so those are around the 2016 time and so those are around the 2016 time and so those are reflected in the reflected in the reflected in the appendices and those the maps and the appendices and those the maps and the appendices and those the maps and the appendices that show the updated zoning appendices that show the updated zoning appendices that show the updated zoning that they've requested okay i guess my that they've requested okay i guess my that they've requested okay i guess my main question is um main question is um main question is um we have to vote on that right yes you we have to vote on that right yes you we have to vote on that right yes you will be voting on so i guess my uh will be voting on so i guess my uh will be voting on so i guess my uh request is to the chair to add that as request is to the chair to add that as request is to the chair to add that as one of our items i just want to make one of our items i just want to make one of our items i just want to make sure we don't miss it sure we don't miss it sure we don't miss it uh i will agree uh counselor little yeah uh i will agree uh counselor little yeah uh i will agree uh counselor little yeah we should add what you go but jose is we should add what you go but jose is we should add what you go but jose is correct as they are not proposing any correct as they are not proposing any correct as they are not proposing any boundary expansion boundary expansion boundary expansion they did make internal changes uh they did make internal changes uh they did make internal changes uh within their existing urban growth within their existing urban growth boundaries so boundaries so

11:42 boundaries so when you make a motion when you make a motion when you make a motion if that is in any of the appendices or if that is in any of the appendices or if that is in any of the appendices or maps maps maps your motion will reflect that we adopt your motion will reflect that we adopt your motion will reflect that we adopt what what what uh the city of washuga proposed uh the city of washuga proposed uh the city of washuga proposed okay and i've added it on my list as okay and i've added it on my list as okay and i've added it on my list as 24.5 so it doesn't get lost 24.5 so it doesn't get lost 24.5 so it doesn't get lost 24.5 24.5 24.5 okay okay okay any other just initial questions now any other just initial questions now any other just initial questions now i want to uh see if there's